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Nigel Southway's avatar

If we halt the stupidity and stop buying renewables in the west the rest will stop making them.

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Caitlin's avatar

Hi Nigel 👋!! Nice to see you’re still wasting your time here 🙃

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Nigel Southway's avatar

just spreading the truth

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Caitlin's avatar

yeah good luck with that lol

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Nigel Southway's avatar

Don’t you study any science?... It’s clear that the green journey is nearing an end.

Wind & Solar and EVs are NOT the way to go!....

https://nigelsouthway.substack.com/p/wind-and-solar-and-evs-are-not-the

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Caitlin's avatar

Bro I’m doing my masters in a scientific field. I think I know what I’m talking about

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Nigel Southway's avatar

Wow.. It’s very sad to think our future scientists cannot follow a logical thought process and instead get tied up in religious acts of faith rather than hard science.

The facts.. (Justification available on demand)

Wind & Solar can have a narrow off grid application but will always be an unreliable and parasitic technology as far as on-grid application is concerned.

Grid batteries (when they are commercially viable and available) will be an expensive luxury and only good for emergency backup compared to flexible direct power sources.

The only viable and sustainable low carbon solution is nuclear power…. Plenty of studies to demonstrate this.

The supply chain for W&S (And EVs) will be both untenable and attract more CO2 than it will save.

There will always be a direct correlation between the increased application of W&S on an energy grid and the increasing real cost of such energy.

The lowest cost energy solution will depend upon the local availability of energy sources and for most emerging economies that will be coal for many more decades.

All nations that have embraced a high usage of W&S into there energy grid have struggled with both high energy costs and grid reliability. (Spain is the latest example)

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Caitlin's avatar

Good to hear from you!! Thanks for putting this together. Keep it up.

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Merlu's avatar

Why are you only focusing on climate? This is not our only -and not even the worst- ecological existential threat. Trump may be unable to stop energy transition, but was totally able to remove protections for old growth forests, in general indifference of the same people who are popping the cork about the energy transition.

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tomasrawlings's avatar

Respectfully I don’t see it as a zero sum game, caring for the environment. I’m happy to ready anything you post here.

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Caitlin's avatar

Thanks for the work you do. An individual cannot take on the whole world, and you’ve chosen one spot to work in and I’m thankful. Keep it up.

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Merlu's avatar

What i personally see is that so-called environemental activists seems to care for climate only, and are barely speaking about any other environemental issues, just like they were unsignificant, if not nonexistent. There are many reasons to be dommist about the current state of the world, but literally all of the articles i found about doomerism are talking only about climate doomerism. Activist seems to downplay -if not ignore- anything that's not climate related, and it's pretty worrying.

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Robby Hogsten's avatar

Because everything relates back to the climate. If we don’t work towards making sure the future is habitable for the global population, there’s no way we can fight back against other injustices. Like you mentioned with Trump’s executive order on lumber, we worry about the chopping down of old forests because trees are an effective carbon sink that helps the environment. No matter what you’re looking at, it’s all connected back to the environment and inevitably, the climate

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tomasrawlings's avatar

I agree that it all connects back to the climate. People should focus on what moves them to act. The more who act, the better.

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Robby Hogsten's avatar

Absolutely. Big fan of your work, thank you for what you do.

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tomasrawlings's avatar

Thanks for the kind words!

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Merlu's avatar

You are totally oblivious. Climate change is only a symptom among many others, and many of them could exist even without climate change. The sole focusing on the climate was a trap fabricated by capitalistic leaders to prevent any critic of the system, and also because climate catastrophes stories are spectacular enough to be sufficient seller for medias outlet or greenwashing solutions, while other issues like biodiversity loss are invisible. And i'm not even talking about the environemental harm of the pseudo-"climate solutions".

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Robby Hogsten's avatar

It’s all connected. Biodiversity loss is directly impacted by climate change as animal species can’t adapt as well to the drastically changing climate.

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Merlu's avatar

Anthropic biodiversity loss does not need climate change to exist. In fact, anthropic biodiversity loss is waaaay older than climate change. Modern ecologists -and apparently you too- seems to think there were not any ecological problems before climate change became significant, which is a gross fallacy, because anthropologists proved that ecological crisis is as old as the mankind.

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Caitlin's avatar

We all have a niche we work on. We can’t do everything as an individual.

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tomasrawlings's avatar

Agree, our focus should be on supporting each other and acting.

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BC's avatar

If that's what you personally see, then I would guess you aren't looking at very many environmental activists and should probably expand your field of vision. Most of the environmental organizations I work with don't have climate change as their primary mission: they may focus on reforestation, restoration, etc. of different natural areas and biomes. Others are focus on waste. Others are focused on pollution and environmental justice. Seriously, expand your field of vision.

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Merlu's avatar

Why did you deleted our discussion?

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